Theloop82 I like the look of the new Explorer, The engine is nice, and Ford's interiors and infotainment are pretty nice on the higher zoot models.And why separate the two when the name has such good connotations to begin with? It's hard to spin off a sub-brand when that name has been associated with the primary brand for so long. A sub-brand on introduction in 1960, it was quickly integrated into the Plymouth line, particularly when Dodge got its own version, the Lancer and later the Dart.In Jeep's case, it's just like the Imperial. Originally Chrysler's top of the line in the 1920's and 1930's, it was spun off as its own brand in the late 1950's, though everybody still referred to it as a Chrysler Imperial.Or the Valiant. Msquare Not without precedent at Chrysler.It might be entitled the stupid things that you do when your young and have more money than brains. Traded a 76 Corvette for it and then traded the T-Bird to get a customized disco style van (another story for later). Each morning when you went to start it one or both of the hideaway headlight flaps would be raised (think that they ran on a vacuum system).

Bad starter and bad alternator right out of the factory. Unfortunately the darn thing was a true lemon. In its day I would say it was comparable to how a 5 Series BMW is viewed today as far as status/prestige and the type of person who would buy one. T-Birds still had a lot of carry over prestige at the time. It was an aspirational car, considered a 'personal luxury vehicle', combining all the available creature comforts with a big V-8. Personally back then I loved the look, as did my peers. Even the floor mats had white thunderbirds embossed on them.

Silver/grey exterior and matching interior with split bench seats. 351 engine, velour interior and most of the available options.

79 ford t bird